Comments on: Is Rap Crap? The Social Consequences of Rap http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/ Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:17:27 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Brad http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-48 Brad Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:47:14 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-48 Maybe. I do occasionally take things too literally. Maybe. I do occasionally take things too literally.

]]> By: Mike http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-47 Mike Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:42:37 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-47 I hope that the genre of rap does not die; as citizenbrain said, rap does not come with an intrinsic ideology. It is very possible for the genre to produce good songs. I also think that Nil Fides may have been joking. He has a tendency to do that I hope that the genre of rap does not die; as citizenbrain said, rap does not come with an intrinsic ideology. It is very possible for the genre to produce good songs. I also think that Nil Fides may have been joking. He has a tendency to do that

]]> By: Brad http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-46 Brad Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:13:49 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-46 Nil Fides, the gangster life is appealing like you said. That, I think Mike implies, is a bad thing. The stereotypically gangster life often has women degraded (should I also note your own post on this blog...?) as well as violence, greed, egotism, and many other negative values promoted. This mainstream portrayal of gangster life is harmful. This is not to say the musical part of this music is not good, or that there aren't good rap songs. It's just that a large number of them do a disservice in society. Mike, I think consumer boycott is somewhat hopeless in the near future, like you say. I believe another cure for this problem is to fight rap with rap. Consumer spending on rap with better messages can probably be achieved, unlike the dying of rap as a style and therefore the end of numerous evils as well as positives in the genre. Nil Fides, the gangster life is appealing like you said. That, I think Mike implies, is a bad thing. The stereotypically gangster life often has women degraded (should I also note your own post on this blog…?) as well as violence, greed, egotism, and many other negative values promoted. This mainstream portrayal of gangster life is harmful.

This is not to say the musical part of this music is not good, or that there aren’t good rap songs. It’s just that a large number of them do a disservice in society.

Mike, I think consumer boycott is somewhat hopeless in the near future, like you say. I believe another cure for this problem is to fight rap with rap. Consumer spending on rap with better messages can probably be achieved, unlike the dying of rap as a style and therefore the end of numerous evils as well as positives in the genre.

]]> By: The Sable Verity http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-43 The Sable Verity Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:21:38 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-43 [...] Is Rap Crap? The Social Consequences of Rap « Hidden Variable [...] [...] Is Rap Crap? The Social Consequences of Rap « Hidden Variable [...]

]]> By: citizenbrain http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-41 citizenbrain Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:01:31 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-41 hahahaha average homeboy, that shit is the funniest thing i've seen in a long time. nice one nil fides. hahahaha average homeboy, that shit is the funniest thing i’ve seen in a long time. nice one nil fides.

]]> By: Nil Fides http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-40 Nil Fides Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:38:24 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-40 Yo speedy slow down. First, ganster life can be appealing...if its that kind of stuff that floats your boat, whereas slave life is a whole other ballfield. Also, why all the reference to the black men in concordance to rap. Whatever happened to my Average Homeboy. Yo is its slipped past your notice, check out the linkizzle that follows. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXb6bjCCtuY Yo speedy slow down. First, ganster life can be appealing…if its that kind of stuff that floats your boat, whereas slave life is a whole other ballfield. Also, why all the reference to the black men in concordance to rap. Whatever happened to my Average Homeboy. Yo is its slipped past your notice, check out the linkizzle that follows.

]]> By: citizenbrain http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/is-rap-crap-the-social-consequences-of-rap/#comment-39 citizenbrain Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:11:05 +0000 http://hiddenvariable.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-39 most of the rap you're talking about is the promoted crap, and its promoted for the reasons of creating a decadent lifestyle among minorities. you gotta see the big picture, and realize why all of a sudden gangster rap was elevated and glorified back in the early 90s and a east coast west coast war was created. rap is a style of music, it does not share an ideology other than the ones put forth by people who are using that style. the glorification of the styles which are used in a negative fashion is a creation by the media to create division between whites and minorities. look at what they're doing to obama, nobody's talking about race except the media, nobody gives a shit about the color of obama if he's gonna allow people to afford to buy their own food and not be on food stamps. food stamps are inreasingly rapidly, and food banks are showing signs of huge decline in availible food stores. my favorite rapper slick rick video below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC4ziQpb5I most of the rap you’re talking about is the promoted crap, and its promoted for the reasons of creating a decadent lifestyle among minorities. you gotta see the big picture, and realize why all of a sudden gangster rap was elevated and glorified back in the early 90s and a east coast west coast war was created. rap is a style of music, it does not share an ideology other than the ones put forth by people who are using that style. the glorification of the styles which are used in a negative fashion is a creation by the media to create division between whites and minorities. look at what they’re doing to obama, nobody’s talking about race except the media, nobody gives a shit about the color of obama if he’s gonna allow people to afford to buy their own food and not be on food stamps. food stamps are inreasingly rapidly, and food banks are showing signs of huge decline in availible food stores.

my favorite rapper slick rick video below.

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